- March 4, 2024
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I am an Australian citizen who returned after 13.5 years in Japan last year.
Points in favour of Japan:
– housing affordability is in much better shape
– cost of living is lower. YouÔÇÖll definitely need to factor that into any potential salaries
– public transport in cities is better
– of the two, it is safer and people are generally quieter
– mountains and onsen
Points in favour of Australia:
– salaries are higher (despite the absurd cost of housing in particular, I am saving much more than I ever did in Japan)
– even if youÔÇÖre paying for it, you will likely have a larger living space
– itÔÇÖs generally easier to own a car. This does make travelling easier.
– more diversity in the cities
– beaches are better
– big cities have more green space than Tokyo
– work culture is a lot more relaxed
I personally donÔÇÖt find social order and safety to be remarkably different between the two countries (even if Japan would win out in safety).
Also personally, while I donÔÇÖt regret my time in Japan at all, I am definitely having a better time in Australia. **but take this with a grain of salt as everyone has a different situation**. I know people who have come/returned here who love it, and others who are ready to go back to Japan.
Also while Australia is looking for medical professionals, itÔÇÖs not like they hand out visas like candy. Your wife would need to pass all the relevant tests, including English language if she is not from an English speaking country.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask.
The biggest challenge in Australia is getting a visa unless you have an occupation on the skilled occupation list. If you don’t have permanent residency it’s a very precarious life as your visa is tied to your employer and you only have 28 days to find a new job and lodge a new application or leave the country if you lose your job.
With PR and reasonable pay it’s a great place to live, much better pay than Japan, multicultural and tolerant to different lifestyle choices. Property market is out of control at the moment tho but no one has a crystal ball as to what will happen
I was in Sydney for a trip. A really bland sandwich costed me around ┬Ñ2000. ThatÔÇÖs my full day grocery bill in Japan
Its expensive in Australia but I dont think Japan is cheap either. With the salary they pay you and amount of hours they expect you to put in, youll probably end up saving more in Australia and your quality of life is much better. Also depends on where you live in Australia. I highly recommend Perth. High income and living costs arent ridiculous like Melbourne or Sydney. People are friendly and laidback. Low crime rates and great food. Beaches are breathtaking and the wildlife is fantastic. Japan might be safe place to live in but it can get really boring.. people are friendly but not much deep convos and relationships are superficial. Also with the conflict with the US and China Japan wont be a safe place to be in when sht goes down.. Im Japanese btw I wish I could live in Australia but Ill have to wait until until my cats grow old
My two cents, it’s a fairly easy equation.
If you expect to earn good money, Australia. The difference in wages means the potential for increased disposable income is much larger, and also easier working environment. Probably easier on your kids’ mental health as well if you ever decide to have them.
If you don’t see yourself having much free play a.k.a disposable income, I wouldn’t live in Australia. It’s stupidly expensive. Nothing like paying an entire Japanese salary just on interest repayments for a house.
Japan is great, there’s a reason why so many people want to visit (granted plenty of people want to visit Australia as well).
So best of both worlds? Work in Australia, retire in Japan. Of course, other factors are in play and things may change in the future, but just in general? Yeah. Unless the Australian property market finally blows out.
To give an example, in either Sydney or Melbourne, average house cost is now 1.-1.2mill thereabouts. Home loan is about 6.5% atm, and probably need a 20%+ downpayment.
So all you need to do is save up 240k+╬▒ so you can get a foot in the door and pay ~60k in interest a year. That’s ´╝Æ´╝Æ´╝É´╝Éõ©çÒÇÇ/ ´╝ò´╝ÿ´╝Éõ©çÒÇÇrespectively, thereabouts.
other downside:
-much higher daily expenses
-housing shortage impacting rental too
-not as safe as Japan ie you may want to avoid walking alone in certain location/times
-dangerous wildlife
Here is a perspective from Japanese/American that grew up in Tokyo, worked in Osaka at a Japanese company,
and now an expat in Melbourne for the last 2 years. I am a native Japanese speaker so my experience may
not exactly translate to yours, but here it is.
Living in Australia (Melbourne) Pros
– Better work-life balance. I finish work around 4-5 pm everyday
– Lots of nature, parks, beaches nearby even close to the city
– Amazing wildlife. I see wild penguins just hanging out by the port ocassionally
– Great coffee. Japanese coffee is ok, but nothing compared to coffee here.
– Good summer. Compared to Japanese summers, temperature might get high, but no where near humid, and cools down at night.
Living in Australia (Melbourne) Cons
– Restaurant/dining is expensive and quite mediocre
– Limited destination options for trips (unless you really love your nature)
– Not so much historical monuments and landmarks (compared to Japan)
– Houses are outrageously expensive to purchase
– No family mart or lawson. 7 eleven is bad.
Neutral
– Safety on par with Tokyo
– Diversity; Australia is definitely more diverse, but to me, seems divided between Aussies and immigrants.
– Rent is similar to that of Tokyo in $/sqm
– Australians are friendly but so are the Japanese
All in all, I do love my life in Australia, and the work life balance is definitely better here.
If you love nature, beaches, outdoors, playing sports and staying active, Australia is a paradise.
As an Australian that’s been living in Japan for the past seven years, I can safely say I wouldn’t return any time soon. As others have mentioned, the housing shortage is insane, daily cost of living is getting stupid. The general day in/day out life is much better and easier in Japan, for me at least.
As an Australian who just moved to Japan six months ago here are some points to consider.
1. Cost of living in sydney and Melbourne is out of control; a bag of potato chips is ┬Ñ800, a beer can get up to ┬Ñ1,500, rent bottoms out at like ┬Ñ65,000 per WEEK and thatÔÇÖs the absolute bottom 1K type place (though larger)
The thing is Japan is expensive if you want it to be, Australia is expensive no matter how much you cut your life down to the bone.
I moved to Japan with a 15% pay cut, and I have 40% more disposable income than I did back home. This is mostly due to reduced cost of food and rent.
If youÔÇÖre a smoker start getting your ass prepared now, smokes are ┬Ñ5,000 a packet.
Basically you really want to make sure you are taking a big salary increase.
Also consider the extreme costs for things like permanent residencies, visas and even healthcare. You will need private health insurance and this can be like ¥10,000 per month, PRs can cost up to ¥1m.
Also consider the costs of car ownership, which are high but also you honestly need a car unless you live in central sydney or Melbourne (expensive).
I love my country but for my industry and my career Japan offers me a far higher standard of living.
The cost of living in Australia is much more expensive. The economy is broken because of an over-reliance on property and mining. There is a lot more overt racism, and a rising tide of anti immigrant sentiment. It’s not as safe, with violent crime especially being more prevalent.
The healthcare system free only for permanent residents and citizens and even for them, itÔÇÖs only free to see a GP, not the specialists. Specialists like dermatologists and psychiatrists have out of pocket costs in the hundreds of dollars, even for people enrolled in Medicare. If youÔÇÖre an overseas working visitor, you need to pay to enroll in private healthcare and pay for any doctorÔÇÖs visits on top of that. Kind of like what you already do for Japanese healthcare, but the doctorÔÇÖs visits and prescription medicine cost way more than in Japan. Optometry and dental care are considered ÔÇ£extrasÔÇØ so you enroll in optional insurance plans to cover those or pay out of pocket.┬á
If you have researched any info on the process of transferring Japanese pension to Aust superannuation IÔÇÖd be all ears. From what I understand, superannuation payments deduct any foreign pension receipts, so people who paid into Japan for many years seem to lose a lot of money in return for just years of eligibility.
I think the main thing to keep in mind financially is the sort of wage you would be happy with when moving to Australia – since the cost of living is probably double, you should definitely be aiming for double the money you were making in Japan at least. Also if you want to keep your rent costs low, I’d expect a longer commute to work. The plus side is your apartment is definitely going to be bigger.
No, the biggest downside is SPIDER.
IÔÇÖm a medical doctor currently living in Japan for study. IÔÇÖve been here 2 years and running. I used to practice back in my home country.
I love Japan, I really do. IÔÇÖd stay if I could, but while IÔÇÖm N2 level itÔÇÖs nowhere near enough to learn medical jargon (even in N1 level it would be difficult, medicine is hard enough in English so imagine how itÔÇÖs like in a different language).
That being said, IÔÇÖm here to share my two cents about your wifeÔÇÖs options if you want to stay in Japan (as they are options IÔÇÖve considered as well):
– if sheÔÇÖs willing to give up clinical medicine (which is what I assume sheÔÇÖs practicing), she can search for a job here under pharmaceutical or research companies. Will it be easy? No. They still require N2-N1 level competency most of the time and job hunting will be a challenge. But is it impossible? Definitely not. ItÔÇÖs definitely more doable than the licensure exam. But she will definitely start from a lower position and thereÔÇÖs no guarantee it will have the same prestige, especially if sheÔÇÖs already practicing as a consultant in your home country.
– if learning the language is difficult, she can enter a completely different field where her background may matter just a little, even though itÔÇÖs not medical, such as recruiting (for pharma or research) or also consider teaching (university)
IÔÇÖve met with doctors from abroad who live here and have taken these paths. Some of them are happy with their choices. But it boils down to whether youÔÇÖre willing to give up clinical medicine or not. If your wifeÔÇÖs answer is no, I will be honest and say Japan may not be an option for now for her professional career.
As for Australia, unless you come from a country with reciprocity, she will have to take the medical licensure exams. Honestly, placement is difficult in Australia and the exams are expensive, but reaching the end goal is possible. I have colleagues who have gone this route and it took them some number of years to establish themselves, but theyÔÇÖre quite satisfied now.
Everyone commented on the pros and cons of living in general so just wanted to comment on your wifeÔÇÖs career options since it seems to be something youÔÇÖre thinking about also. Just so you know you have options in Japan besides the medical licensure exams 🙂 good luck OP!
Good luck buying or renting a property. Shit is cooked in Australia
My wife is a medical doctor from the EU. We moved from London to Australia in 2009. Zero regrets — Australia has been a wonderful place to raise our two boys. We go to Japan several times a year to ski and eat proper Japanese food.
If in the end itÔÇÖs all about getting together with your wife and supporting her career, then itÔÇÖs a no brainer. Oz. Probably the same result in terms of economics and work/life balance – provided you understand how terribly expensive properties are over there.
But after living half of my life in each country, I know where my heart wants to be and that is Japan. The food, the civility, the peacefulness, the convenience
I was in Sydney last December. My mother lives in a $5mill condo – shoddily built. I requested the bank across town to send me some documents through the mail. As the bank predicted, it took 10 days. (In Japan, I received a reply from shiyakusho just 2 days after I sent a postcard to them!) Worst of all, I called an airline to rearrange a flight they canceled on me and spent almost 2 hours on hold before reaching a human. (No, online changes were not possible). After living here so long, it was hard to accept Aussie standards again. Beware. That work/life balance comes as a cost!
I hate when people say in “my home country.” Just say the country you wuss. Or are you some political dissident or something, livin’ in fear? Jeez.