The AI Legalese Decoder: A Tool to Uncover the Risks and Benefits of High Deductible Health Plans and HSAs
- November 30, 2023
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The Benefits and Concerns of Health Savings Accounts
As a recent convert to the wonders of Health Savings Accounts (HSAs), I made the decision to sign up for an HSA for the upcoming year. However, I can’t shake off the nervous feeling that comes with switching from a preferred provider organization (PPO) to a high deductible health plan. This change has me feeling uneasy, as I have always been used to the comfort and security of a PPO.
My company’s high deductible health plan comes with a single free physical per year, and anything beyond that has to be paid for out of pocket until I reach the $3000 deductible. On a positive note, my company does offer a $500 match, and I plan on maxing out the HSA this year. Despite this, I am still worried about the financial implications, especially with my therapy sessions now costing $170 each, in contrast to the previous $25 copay. If I were to only go once a month, or have additional doctor appointments, urgent care visits, or emergency room trips, the costs would quickly accumulate. This situation has led me to question whether my company’s health plan is particularly unfavorable.
Taking this leap of faith with the HSA has me in a state of inner turmoil. While I acknowledge that I will be able to manage if I have to bear the entire $3000 cost, I am finding it difficult to weigh the costs against the benefits. Does it only make sense to opt for an HSA if you only plan on visiting the doctor once or twice a year? Or is the long-term payoff truly worth it, provided that you have the means to cover the out-of-pocket expenses?
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They’re great if you have very low costs generally, or if you have very high costs. On the low cost side they have a lower premium and come with the HSA. On the high cost side, no matter what plan you have, you hit your out of pocket max.
The big difference is in the middle of the cost curve – where your costs are more than the difference in premium but not quite hitting your deductible. The closer you get to your deductible without going over, the worse the plan is relative to other things.
In many cases, the effective deductible and effective out of pocket max is **lower** for an HDHP than a regular PPO plan when considering the lower premiums.
One other thing for HSA is being in “reasonable” health and not needing doctor visits /labs frequently.
My experience is itÔÇÖs probably better to start young, so you can bank some money being young and healthy, and then youÔÇÖll be set later.
I honestly wish I had had one my whole career, IÔÇÖd probably have bank now lol, but IÔÇÖve only been doing it for 3 years and I usually hit the deductible so thatÔÇÖs $3k not getting invested. But IÔÇÖm old so ymmv.
If you can afford the deductible and thereÔÇÖs no turds hidden in the fine print, I say go for it.
I view my HSA as a retirement plan since it has a triple tax advantage. I max it out every year and invest all funds once IÔÇÖve met the minimum.
I pay for all healthcare out of pocket, but keep all receipts in a folder in case I hit a rough patch and need to file for reimbursements. ThereÔÇÖs not a deadline to file reimbursements so I plan to wait until IÔÇÖm in my 50s to do everything at once.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/05/24/financial-coach-why-an-hsa-is-at-least-17percent-better-than-a-401k.html
I think HDHP plans are best for young people who only need to see a doctor 1-2 times a year and have coverage for catastrophic situations and let the HSA quietly grow in the background for decades, or for older richer people who may have chronic illnesses but can afford the OOP max and still benefit.
WeÔÇÖre probably in the latter group strictly by the numbers, but my spouse has a few chronic medical conditions and may be starting a very $$$ medication, my kids seem to have some illness or minor trauma every couple of months and I have to get yearly MRIs and *for me personally* the relative predictability of a PPO is better.
Your first year is rough, but once you have some hsa built up to use it becomes easier and just a different way to look at things. If you never have health issues or have tons it is usually better.
HSAs are only amazing if they’re cheaper than other options all things considered.
I have a lot of health issues (ie multiple daily meds and at least 10 dr visits on a good year) and for a while my company’s HSA was a great deal. I did use some of it over the years, but I was able to put 8k in investments when I switched plans.
I did the math this year and I would have spent $2k more next year if I went with the HSA. The tax savings doesn’t justify spending $2k more a year.
You should have done the math with what you spent last year (if you download the claims it tells you wait your plan paid and what you paid. Add it together and apply it the the HSA plan) and see how you’d fair.
Your plan isn’t particularly bad, but it might not have been a good decision for you.
~~What is the premium difference?~~ You say it’s $170 for your visit but only a $25 copay, I know there’s a $130 per month premium difference between MY Platinum and HDHP options which would be most of that gap. Factor in the tax break and it’s probably the entire difference.
Edit: I see you’ve answer this above.
I read a bunch of comments and didn’t see anything about the psychological aspect. If the emotions and thoughts around spending money for doctor’s visits make you avoid them when you really should go, that would be another point against the HSA for you.
I only had the option of an HSA with a high deductible plan for years, so I kind of got used to it, but I still avoided doctor’s visits when I would have rather gone. Even now that I have a balance built up in the account, I still avoid more expensive care because of the cost.
This is one major reason I didn’t get an HSA when I was with my previous employer, they paid almost all of the premiums on either plan, so my per paycheck costs where pretty low either way with a PPO vs high deductible health plan, I think it would have been about $40/mo difference. While the tax advantage didn’t seem to quite cover the difference in the out of pocket maximum.
If I were younger and had less need for medical costs I wouldn’t reach the out of pocket maximum, but I’m in my 40s now, and so it adds up every year for me.
The HSA + high deductible health plan looked more like a way for my employer to save money and they didn’t seem to share the premium savings if there were any so I passed.
I think it is possible that it could work for people if employers are willing to share in the premium savings, good PPOs cost about $700-$800/mo per person these days, I know I had to pay COBRA for that plan for some time.
A past employer, a major tech company, was willing to put several thousand dollars into the HSA on your behalf to incentivize people to use that plan, but with employers largely unwilling to do that, HSAs don’t make sense.
You have to do the math. Use your most probable case – in your case, you have some recurring therapy which costs more per session under the HDHP. But if the premiums are lower for HDHP and the company gives you money in the HSA which you can use for the therapy. So taking those things into effect and if you will hit the deductible – then which one is actually lower cost?
It’s just a general statement for healthy people that a HDHP is better value. But it doesn’t apply to everyone.
Personally, me and my family have been on a HDHP for 10 years. I’ve covered 2 childbirths – one which was complicated by an extended NICU stay. And I figure I’m $15k-$20k wealthier because of the HDHP with it’s lower premiums and company HSA contributions. Then add on the advantage of maxing out the HSA for tax advantages and investing and I’m beginning to rack up some real serious value.
For my plan, it makes sense. For me and my wife, the company contributes $2,600/yr into the HSA, deductible is $3,200, max out of pocket is $4,400. Difference in premiums between HDHP vs PPO is $2,500/yr.
Practically a no-brainer in this case. You just need to look at your specific plan.
It depends on what your premiums are.
For whatever reason, my annual premium for the High deductible plan through my company is about 3k. They also put 1k in my HSA for me, so it effectively costs me 2k. But the first $3000 is out of pocket (next year I think it goes up to $3200).
The max I pay out of pocket is the premium (2000) plus the 6000 max. So 8000 is the most I pay for healthcare in a year.
Our low deductible PPO has much higher premium. I think when I looked at it for our open enrollment, the premiums were over 5k/year, and if we had an out of pocket max year then the most we would pay is close to 12k due to the higher starting premium.
There are ÔÇ£in the middleÔÇØ values where one may compare better. If our costs stayed low, in the <3000 dollar range, the high deductible was actually way better since it is still less than just the premium for the low deductible. Somewhere between 3000-6000 in expenses itÔÇÖs better to have the low deductible, but only marginally because the HSA provides tax benefits that the low deductible doesnÔÇÖt have. And if we are going to have an out of pocket max year, the high deductible wins even without the HSA.
In my familyÔÇÖs experience, we either are pretty low, or we have a surgery or something and hit OOP Max. ThereÔÇÖs usually not much in between. So we stick with the high deductible + HSA.
Again you need to look at the costs through your company, the value of the HSA, and your liklihood for needing medical care. If you load up the HSA through the year, youÔÇÖll always have enough in there to cover the HSA / high deductible.
in my strictly anecdotal experience with what I’m being offered, the HDHP plans are better suited for those folks that make a buttload of money, have already maxed out their tax advantaged accounts and are trying their darndest to squeeze more money out of things.
Otherwise, PPO with a low deductible is best for “normies”. trying to juggle an HDHP with an HSA is pretty tough when you’re struggling to pay off debts.
it’s a reason why HSA stuff is so far down the flowchart.
Are you a small consumer or heavy consumer of medicine? High deductibles are for the former.
HSAs donÔÇÖt make sense for everyone. I am on a plan with Kaiser and itÔÇÖs much better for my situation.
HSAs are fantastic if you do not regularly use health care. This is more typical for someone who is young, in good health, unmarried, no kids etc.
As for actually using the healthcare there are planned events like your therapy example and unplanned events. At least with unplanned events that are a very large expense both the high and low deductible should have a max out of pocket annual deductible.
But, for planned events you really just need to do the math:
* factor the difference in premium that you’ll save with HSA
* factor the out of pocket that you plan to hit
* factor the company match
My guess is that if your therapy is anything more frequent than once a month HSA is probably not that attractive. Also keep in mind that you will likely also have far better access to providers with a PPO, which is another intangible.
When I was younger and single and didn’t consume healthcare, the HDHP made sense. Now that I’m 40+ and need a colonoscopy next year and am married to a woman who likes to go to the doctor every other week, I switched to a PPO, but I still have a stack of cash in a HSA, which is nice.
Make sure your HDHP pays out at 100% after you meet $3k deductible. I realized when we hit our $4500 deductible this year that we still have a copay of 10% up to a max of $9k to truly meet the max out of pocket.
This is a personal question, you have to do the math.
For my HSA, it is cheaper in monthly payments from my paycheck than in other plans. And my employer contributed to it.
Those two things pay for the higher deductible and then some, so it is a no brainer.
Do The Math.
I did it last year and regretted it, so IÔÇÖm switching back. Having to pay out of pocket for all these things was too much
IMO and experience, no. They were created/popularized under Bush 2 to prop up “consumer-driven” healthcare products.
“HSA”: a tax avoidance/deferment product.
“HDHP”: a unidirectional risk-shifting method, specific USD amount of required spending, and specific order of payment processing among payers. $1600 worth of 2024’s USD and you first.
“PPO”: a method insurance sellers use to corral health care vendors into variably reimbursable “networks” and gatekeep access to them.
The initialisms are not mutually exclusive despite them denoting entirely dissimilar things.
Figure out how much tax avoidance/deferment you’re after with “HSA.” [Here’s a half decent calculator.](https://www.calcxml.com/calculators/federal-income-tax-calculator)
Your employer chose $500 worth for itself and $76.50 in extra rewards points for not funding Social Security and Medicare with $76.50 for the year. Per employee. Leaving $(?) of paid wages you can “HSA” if your tax filing status is (?).
If “HSA” delivers $1 more in tax avoidance/deferment than not-“HSA” would cost you in trying to receive necessary, that’s the tax avoidance/deferment product for you.
Absolutely depends on the specific details of your plans? What are the deductibles and premiums for both plans? Any dependents? If so, do they share a deductible or are they separate? Assume in network for everything.
Wife and I hit our $6,000 deductible this year, (cancer). Even with that, it’s worth it. Our premiums are $87 a month. We put the max into the HSA every year, company contributes $1k to the HSA.
Your older retired self will thank your current self for getting an HSA.
Fidelity has an HSA and all of their funds are available for it.
There is no risk to it. Only risky behavior for not doing it.
In my case it has made sense every year, ranging from not going to the doctor at all to delivering a baby. Additionally, you get the HSA, which we of course max out every year.
Run a spreadsheet with all the costs, including lower premiums, company contributions, deductible, max out of pocket cost, etc. Then run some scenarios on how much you would spend. You’re all set for next year, but you’ll know what to expect (perhaps get as much as you can in this year?).
For me it is worth it because I have a very expensive medication and I hit my deductible pretty quickly. So for ten months of the year, all of my medical care is covered. I just have to be prepared for that $2k up front, but I have HSA funds to reimburse myself when those costs arise.
Have over 30k in my HSA over the handful of years i’ve been adding to it. Well worth it if you don’t need many doctor visits. About 1/3 of it was employer added.
IÔÇÖve got a similar situation, but stuck with my PPO/FSA instead of the HDHP/HSA as my wife has some medical issues with continual specialist visits.
Hitting that 2k deductible in 2 months would be a total drag. And if I had any medical visits during the year it would completely wash any savings IÔÇÖd have on premiums.
From what IÔÇÖve heard the real benefit of an HSA would be if you didnÔÇÖt use it for medical expenses now, but invested it to exploit the tax advantage later on in life. If you have a good amount of discretionary income then it works.
Do the math. Here is a spreadsheet:
https://thefinancebuff.com/hmo-ppo-vs-high-deductible-hdhp-hsa.html
Ooh, fresh out of this crap shoot..
I have a high deductible plan with HSA. The first 2 years were great! Invest away! Get gains, bruh!
This year, not so much. I hit my 8k family deductible in July. Out of pocket a few K after buttoning up what was in my HSA.
Some HSAs are good, some are just plain awful. If an HSA falls between a cost-saving HSA and rich-benefit HSA itÔÇÖs usually splitting the difference and not worth it.
HSAs on the marketplace have slowly become nearly all bad as costs have risen. Much of any benefit from these plans is a gamble and best suited to those who have minimum insurance solely as a basic care + emergency policy. Even then, especially if paying full premiums, the insured has to be maxing the HSA with eyes on retirement at squeeze much benefit.
If an employer and/or broker isnÔÇÖt well versed, or they just donÔÇÖt want to ante up for health care, some of the HSA options from employers likewise lose much benefit.
At the end of the day well versed brokers have positioned HSAs as options to lower overall premiums, building out programs to supplement where legally possible. When offered alongside other rich benefits brokers can make HSAs worth it, and in many cases more desirable or have some level of parity with conventional plans.
> Our company does also match $500
It would seem your company is making some stride by matching $500 in the HSA. This might actually be enough of a benefit to offset costs for a good portion of their population, especially if itÔÇÖs young. Max out of pockets may also be low to catch some of the more cost-heavy of the population.
> my therapy sessions cost $170 each
When taking this into consideration the HSA *may* be a poor choice for you. If youÔÇÖre falling between those who arenÔÇÖt using their benefits and those who regularly/plan to hit out of pocket max it may just not be a fit.
Ultimately one needs to compare plans as premiums play a large role in the cost-benefit analysis, if the HSA saves one a base of $3k/yr that has to be considered. Once this is done one has to apply their own usage expectations to derive the rest of those best options.
An HSA may not be a good fit for someone with a lot of predictable, ongoing medical expenses. But sit down and do the math, you might be surprised.